Saturday, October 31, 2009

James De Bohun and Joan De Braose

James De Bohun, Baron of Midhurst, was born 3 Feb 1279/80 in Ford, Sussex, England and died May 1304. He was the son of John De Bohun and Joan De La Chappelle. He married Joan De Braose, daughter of William De Braose and Elizabeth Sully. She was born about 1280 and died 11 May 1324 St. Benet's Abbey, Holme, Norfolk, England. She married 16 September 1310 to Richard Foliot. She died between 8 December 1321 and 23 June 1324

James and Joan had children:

1.John de Bohun born 14 November 1301 Todham, Easebourne, Sussex, England and died 5 December 1367 m. 1st Isabel de Tregoz m.2nd Cecily Filliol.

Joan had by her second husband Richard Foliot:

1. one daughter
2.Margery
3.one son


Notes and queries‎ - Page 453
Oxford Journals 1883

...there is no doubt that on the death of John de Bohun on Sept. 14, 1284, his son and heir was John de Bohun, aged nine years, there is, I think, as little doubt that the latter must have died under age, and had a brother, by name James, who succeeded to the father's estates; for in the Coram Rege Rolls, Mih. 30 & 31 Edward I ro. 33, occurs the proof of age of James, son and heir of John de Bohoun de Midhurst, Mich. 30 Edward I, which says he was born at Forde-juxta-Arundel, and was baptized in the church of the same town, and was of the age of twenty-one years on the day of St. Blase last past; he was therefore, probably born on Feb. 3, 1281, whereas his brother John, if he had lived, would have been at this date (1302), he having been born in 1275, according to his father's Inq. p.m., twenty-seven years of age. This James also died early, for there is an Inq. p.m., 34 Edward I, No. 9, taken at Dublin on Oct. 25, 1306, after the death of James de Bohun, in which, it being taken in Ireland, the jurors are at a loss to know who was his heir; but this is cleared up at a later date by a Corum Rege Roll, Mich. 17 Edward II, ro. 34, concerning the custody of the lands and tenements of James de Bohun of Midhurst, which mentions that for life, Anthony, Bishop of Durham, has two parts of the manor of Midhurst and the moity of the manor of Fordes, and that the same, by virtue of the feoffment out to remain to John son of James de Bohun, and they are held of Edmund, Earl of Arundel, and by letters patent, Feb. 2, 7 Edward II (1314), the king granted the custody to Queen Isabella, and also commanded Richard de Bohun (probably an uncle) and two others to inquire as to the lands of the heir.

From the above references I think we may safely say that, at all events, there was a James de Bohun, which Hermentrude seems to think doubtful, and the Inq. p.m. on William de Braose, 19 Edward II, No. 89, gives one of his heirs as being John de Bohun, son and heir of Joan, who was the wife of James de Bohun, I think we may safely say the Mr. Courthope and others have attributed the right husband to the right wife.
D.G.C.E.

A genealogical history of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited, and extinct ...‎ - Page 58
Sir Bernard Burke - 1866

James de Bohun, (4th Edward I) m. Joan, dau., and co-heir of William de Braose Lord of Bramber, and was father of John de Bohun, who was summoned to parliament as Baron of Midhurst, 1364 (37th Edward III) "This is he (says Dugdale) who for his great services in Flanders, and elsewhere beyond sea, in 14th Edward III (when the king first laid claim to the crown of France), as also in that famous expedition into France, 19th Edward III (shortly after which, the king obtained that glorious victory as Cressy, whereof our historians make ample mention), became afterwards one of the Barons of the realm, being summoned to sit in parliament, in 37th, 38th, and 39th of that king's reign." By his lst wife, Isabel, he had a daughter, Joan, m. to John de Lisle de Gatcombe, in the Isle of Wight, and by his 2nd wife, Cicely, dau. and heir of John de Filliol, he had a son John. His lordship d. 41st Edward III, his son

John de Bohun (7th Richard II) had two sons, John and Humphrey (Sir), of Midhurst, who d.s.p. 1468. The eldest son, John de Bohun (10th Henry VI, 1432), left two daus. and co-heirs, Mary and Urusula.


I found a note on this web page http://freespace.virgin.net/doug.thompson/BraoseWeb/family/joan.html that said James was born prematurely as a result of his mother falling down stairs and was hastily christened "in Ford church, his godparents being James, a thatcher, and 'Lame Joan'."

Sussex Archaeological Collections‎ - Page 9
by Sussex Archaeological Society - Archaeology - 1868

No sooner, however, was the Bishop dead, than John de Bohun brought his action against the Earl of Arundel, who had had his wardship, for waste; but the action was stopped by the King's protection to the Earl.

Edmund, Earl of Arundel, was summoned to answer John, the son of James de Bohun, of Midhurst, of a plea of waste of the lordships woods and gardens, which he held of the inheritance of the said John, in Mid- hurst, Eseburn, and Farnehurst, and the said John, by William de Lucy, his guardian, said that the said Earl had in custody on account of the minority of the said John, two parts of the manor of Midhurst, with the appurtenances and made waste in two messuages, two gardens, and two thousand acres of wood; viz., in one messuage, one hall, value £50; a certain chamber, value £62 ; another chamber, value £12 ; two chapels, the value of each, 100s.; a kitchen, value 10 marcs ; and a granary, value 5 marcs ; and in another messuage, a hall, value £10; two chambers, the value of each, 100s.; a chapel, value 100s.; and a kitchen, value 60s.; and in the woods 1600 oaks, each value half a mark ; 90 beech, each worth 30s.; and in the gardens, 20 apple trees, each worth 30s.; to the damage of the sd John of £1,000. And the sd Edmund, by his attorney, said that the said lands belonged to the grandfather of the said John, who leased the same to Anthony de Beke, late Bishop of Durham, for his life; and that he (the Earl) had made no waste while the lands were in his hands, by reason of John's minority. Whereupon the sheriff was ordered to summon a jury; but William de Norwyk brought in the King's protection to the Earl, and the complaint remained "sine die" under that protection..........................

After the entire estate had been remitted to the Bohuns, Franco's grandson John died without children, and was succeeded by his brother James, who married the heiress of Wm. de Braose, of Bramber. Their only child was the most distinguished of the family, fighting at Cressy, in 1346, endowing the Benedictine Nunnery of Easebourne, and dying in 1367, after having been summoned to Parliament, from 1363 to 1366, as Lord Bohun of Midhurst. His second wife, Cecilia, was another heiress, and she brought the good estates of the Filiols, of Essex. Their only child, another John, lived for 57 years after his father's death.

This John seems to have been a troublesome person, for among the Bills in Chancery, preferred to Thomas Arundel, Archbishop of York, whilst Chancellor (15 to 20 Rich. II.) is one from the Burgesses of Midhurst, praying that he might find fresh securities in £40, to keep the peace, the sureties already given, viz., John Bramshote and William Tailard, not having tenements of that value.

When he died, he left Midhurst for his feoffees (men of note in Sussex) to grant to his widow Anne, which they did on 4th January, 1440 [18 Hen. VI.]

Know all39 present and future that we, Hugh Halsham, knt.,40 John Lyndesfcld, clerk, William Ryman,41 Walter Vere, Richard Wakehurst,4* William Sydeney, John Lelye, and Walter Urry,48 feoffees of Sir John Bohun, knight, lately dead, to perform his last will and testament, have given, and by these our charter, have confirmed to Anne, late wife of the said John Bohun, all these our manors of Cowdray, Midhurst, Eseborne, and Farnehurst, with all members, &c., to hold to her for her life.

That he married late in life is clear, for his eldest son, Humphrey, was only 14 when his father died. This Humphrey died about 50 years old, for his will was made on 2nd Nov., 1468, and proved ten days after.

In the name of God, amen,44 the second day of the month of November, in the year of our Lord, 1468, and the 8th year of the reign of king Edward IV., after the conquest, I, Hcmphrey Bohun, knight, being of sound mind and memory, make this, my testament, in this manner:— In the first place, I leave my soul to Almighty God and the Blessed Virgin Mary, and to all saints ; my body to be buried in the chapel of the Blessed Mary, in the Abbey of Coggeshall, near the entrance of that church, if it should happen that I die or decease in the county of Essex.

Item, I leave for my burial there, that is to say, to the abbot of that Abbey, 13s. 4d. Item, I leave to all the monks of the same place, celebrating divine service, or reading in the same Abbey, to distribute between them, and to be equally divided, 40s., under this condition, that they shall read or chant the exequies, maps of the dead, and the office of burial, and the other divine offices, as the custom is in the office of the dead ; and that they shall do so on the 7th day after my burial, and on the 30th day after my burial, and on the anniversary next after my burial, and so in perpetuity I desire their prayers, that is to say, that they should, out of charity, pray for my soul, and for the souls of my parents deceased. And if I should happen to decease in the county of Sussex, I leave my body to be buried in the chapel of St. Mary, of the Priory of Esborn, near the burial place of my parents. Item, I leave for my burial there, that is to say, to the prioress of that place, 13s. 4d., and to each of the nuns, to distribute amongst them equally, 40s., under this condition, that they read or sing exequies, the mass for the dead, and the office of burial, and the other divine offices, as the custom is in the office of the dead, and that they shall do the same on 7th day after my burial, and on the 30th day after my burial, and on the anniversary next following my burial, and so in perpetuity I desire their prayers, that is to say, that they should, out of charity, pray for my soul and the souls of my parents deceased. Item, I leave to the curate of the parish church of Keleden, Sb. 8d. Item, I leave to the rector of the parish church of Little Badewe, 6s. 8d. Item, I leave to the curate of the parish church of Esborn, 6s. 8d. Item, 1 leave to the vicar of the parish church of Badewe, 6s. 8d. Item, I leave to the curate of the parish church of Midhurst, 6s. 8d. Item, I leave to the curate of the parish church of Farnhirst, 6s. 8d. Item, I leave to John Bohun, my son, and to his heirs, my sword and one horse, at the discretion of my executors. Item, I leave to the said John one bed called "fedirbed," which lies in the great chamber, at Filoll Hall, with one bolster thereto par fustiorum, and one covering of counterfeit arras and their hangings, called " costers," of green worsted, as they hang in the same chamber; and also one mattress and one bolster, and one pair of blankets, with one covering. Item, I leave to the said John all those things as they hang in the parlour of Filoll Hall, with 3 " costers," as they hang in that parlour, of red worsted, and also one brazen pot and plate. Item, I leave to my son, Humphrey Bohun, one piece of golden berell, with one " fiolo " of golden berell. Item, I leave to all my domestics, viz., to each gentleman (Generoso), 13s. 4d.; to each valet, 6s. 8d.; and to each " garcon," 3s. 4d. Item, 1 will that Simon Higate shall have, for his life, all the lands and pastures called Hyfeldes, Busshe, Berber, Herberfeld morelandes, and two acres of meadow, of which 1^ acres lie in the meadow called Rokemede, and ^ an acre lies in the meadow called Moreland mede. Item, I will that all my feoffees and all my executors make a secure and legal estate, of and in my manor of Filoll Halle, with all the appurtenances, of the sum of 5 marcs, to the Lord of Coggeshall, called the Abbey of Saint Mary, for ever, where I propose to be buried, to have there a mass daily, that lie who celebrates the mass should have, each week 12d.; and also 12d. a-year for wax; and for the bell ringers in meat and drink, 2s.; and for the drink of the monks of the same place, 12d.; and in remuneration to the abbot of the same place, once a year, 6s. 8d.; and for distribution among the poor, once a year, 4s. Item, 1 will that my feoffees and executors shall give and make secure and legal estate, of and iu my lands, in fee simple, in the county of Sussex, being and lying within the towns and parishes of Midhurst, Esburne, Farnhurst, Wollavinton, Wolbedying, Heyschut, Midlavant, and in all other places within the county of Sussex, a certain annual sum of 4 marcs for the religious house (monalium) called the Priory of Esborne, in perpetuity, and that they and their successors shall have a duty for the said annuity, according to the discretion of my executors. Item, I will that all the residue of my lands, in fee simple, within the county aforesaid, beyond the aforesaid annuity, shall be sold by my executors, and be disposed of for my soul, and the souls of my deceased ancestors, as my executors shall see fit. Item, I will that my executors should have and receive all the profits, rente, and services, in and out of my manor of Filoll Halle, with all appurtenances, lying and being in the county of Essex, from the day of my burial, for one year fully, to be complete and ended without any interruption by my heirs and feoffees. Item, I leave to William Salle, 40s. Item, I leave to Thomas Lyngwood, 40s. Item, I give and leave to each of my executors, 40s. The residue of my goods not bequeathed, I give and bequeath to my executors, to dispose of for my soul, as to them may seem best to please God, and profit my soul. And I make, ordain, and constitute William Pestell, Simon Higate, John Chambre, and Sir Richard Norfolk, clerk, executors of this my will.

Proved at Lambeth, by the first 3, on 12th November, 1468.

This will shows that Midhurst, in the 15th century, had ceased to be the family burial place, and that Easebourne then was.

This Humphrey had, as we have seen, two sons— Humphrey, who died young, and with John, the other, who died 1499, terminated the male line of the de Bohuns. Two daughters were his co-heiresses — the eldest, Maria, was the wife of Sir David Owen; and the youngest, Ursula, married Robert Southwell, of Suffolk. Both daughters died without issue, and the estates in Sussex and Essex were sold.


younger daughter and coheir of Sir William [DE BREWES) of Bramber and Gower [LORD BREWES]. John Bohun's widow, to whom dower in Ireland was ordered to be assigned, 5 June and 25 November 1307, married, soon after 16 September 1310, Sir Richard FOLIOT, of Gressenhall and Weasenham, Norfolk, who died between 18 April and 23 July 1317, when on the King's service in Scotland. She died between 8 December 1321 and 23 June 1324. [CP 2:200]

Magna Carta Ancestry
By Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham

Joan De Brewes, younger daughter and co-heiress. She married (1st) James De Bohun (or Boun, Bowne), of Midhurst, Ford, and Rustington, Sussex, and Ballymadden, co., Kildare, Ireland., 2nd son of John de Bohun, Knt., by Joan, daughter and heiress ob Bartholomew de la Chapelle, ow Waltham, Lincolnshire, Serjeant of the King's Chapel. He was born at Ford, Sussex 3 Feb 1280/1. He was heir about 1297 to his older brother and heir John de Bohun. They had one son, John, Knt. James De Bohun died shortly before 30 May 1306. She married (2nd) soon after 16 Sept 1310 Richard Foliot, Knt., of Gressenhall and Weasenham, Norfolk, son and heir of Jordan Foliot, of Gressenhall and Weasenham, by Margery, daughter of Adam de Newmarch, Knt., of Womersley, Yorkshire. He was born about 19 April 1284. They had one son and two daughters, including Margery. He was never summoned to Parliament. Sir Richard Foliot[de jure 2nd Lord Foliot] died on the King's service in Scotland shortly before 23 July 1317. His widow, Joan died before 23 June 1324


The encyclopædia britannica: a dictionary of arts, sciences, literature and ...‎ - Page 432
Hugh Chisholm - 1910

...William de Braose (d. 1326), lord of Gower, was a devoted follower of Edward I, and in 1299 was summoned to parliament as baron de Braose; and his nephew Thomas de Braose (d. 1361) also distinguished himself in the wars and was summoned as baron de Braose in 1342. This latter barony became extinct in 1399; but a claim to the barony of William de Braose, which, as he had no son, fell into abeyance between his two daughters and co-heirs, Aline (wife of Lord Mowbray) and Joan (wife of John de Bohun), or their descendants, may still be traced by careful genealogists in various noble English families.

An inventory of the ancient monuments in Glamorgan, Volume 3‎ - Page 432
Clifford Spurgeon, Royal Commission on Ancient and Historical Monuments in Wales - 2000

Raymond de Sully died between 1314 and 1317. The last of his name, his daughter
and heiress, Elizabeth, was the wife of William de Braose. ...
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