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John De Segrave and Margaret Plantagenet

John De Segrave and Margaret Plantagenet

John De Segrave was the son of John/Stephen De Segrave and Alice FitzAlan

He was born about 1316 in Norfolk, England and died 1 April 1353. He succeeded his father in 1325 as 4th Lord Segrave. He married about 1337-38 to Margaret Plantagenet, daughter of Thomas of Brotherton Plantagenet, Earl of Norfolk & his first wife Alice Halys.

John De Segrave and Margaret Plantagenet had the following children:

1.Edmund de Segrave, died in infancy
2.Elizabeth de Segrave (1338-1368) m. John De Mowbray
3.John de Segrave (1340-1349)
4.Anne de Segrave, Abbess of Barking

A synopsis of the peerage of England: exhibiting, under alphabetical ...‎ - Page 585
by Sir Nicholas Harris Nicolas - 1825

1325. 6 John de Segrave, grandson and heir, being son and heir of Stephen de Segrave (ob. v.p.) eldest son of the last Baron; Summ. To Parliament from 29 Nov. 10 Edward III 1336, to 15 Nov. 25 Edward III 1351; he married Margaret Plantagenet, dau. And eventually sole heir of King Edward I; ob. 1353, S.P.M. Elizabeth, his sole daughter and heir married John IV-10 Baron Mowbray, whose son Thomas was created Duke of Norfolk, in which, title this Barony, together with that of Mowbray, continued merged until the death of John IV-4th Duke of Norfolk, when they devolved on his daughter and heir, Ann, on whose death, S.P., the descendants of Margaret and Isabel, sisters of John II-2nd Duke of Norfolk, became her heirs, between whose representatives....

A genealogical history of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited, and extinct ...‎ - Page 485
by Sir Bernard Burke – 1866

John De Segrave, 3rd baron, summoned to parliament, from 29 November 1336, to 15 November, 1351. This nobleman appears, like his predecessors, a distinguished personage in the field, during his comparatively short career; for he did not live beyond the age of thirty-eight. In the wars of France and Scotland, temp. Edward III, he took an active part, and was more than once retained to serve the king by an indenture. His lordship made an illustrious alliance in marrying the Lady Margaret Plantagenet, dau., and eventually sole heiress of Thomas de Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk, Marshall of England, younger son of King Edward I; by this lady he left, at his decease, in 1353, an only dau. And heiress, Elizabeth, who m. John de Mowbray, 4th Baron Mowbray, and had issue, John, 5th Lord Mowbray...; Thomas, 6th Lord Mowbray...; Isabel, m. 1st to Sir Henry Ferrers, 2nd Edward Grey; Margaret, m to Sir Robert Howard;

The royal descent of Nelson and Wellington from Edward the First, King of ...‎ - Page 62
by George Russell French - 1853

“Thomas of Brotherton's daughter, Margaret, Duchess of Norfolk, after the death of her husband, Lord Segrave, married the famous Sir Walter Manny, Knight banneret, and K.G. And so celebrated a warrior that at the siege of Calais, both Edward the Third and his gallant son, the Black Prince, did not disdain to fight as simple knights under the banner of so renowned a captain, whose valour was only equalled by his humanity. The issue of this marriage was an only surviving daughter, Anne, who married John Hastings, second Earl of Pembroke, and their only son, John Hastings, third earl died without issue.”

“The Segraves were eminent in their day; John de Segrave, the first husband of Margaret Plantagenet, was son of Stephen de Segrave (ob.vit. Patris) and Alice Arundel, and grandson of John de Segrave, second Baron Segrave, who was much engaged in the Scottish wars of Edward the First, and acted as Marshal to the English host at the siege of Caerlave rock, for Roger de Bigod, who was ill at the time, and who afterwards resigned his rod of office:

'He went with his bannere Sir Jon the Segrave,
To do alle the service that longed the office tille,
And mayntayned alle the praise ther he sauh lawe and

“In memory of thus holding the Marshal's baton, Lord Segrave's banner was displayed from the battlements of the castle at its capture, A.D.1300. He was afterwards sent into Scotland at the head of 20,000 men, who were signally defeated at Roslin by an inferior force under John Comyn and Simon Frazer. When the immortal patriot, William Wallace became through Monteith's treachery the captive of Edward the First, Lord Segrave, as Grand Marshal, rode by the side of the dauntless Scot when he was conveyed from the house of William Delect, citizen in Fenchurch Street, to Westminster Hall for his trial.”

An alphabetical dictionary of coats of arms belonging to families in Great ...‎ - Page 164
by John Woody Papworth - History - 1874

Gu. three lions pass. pale or a label of three (sometimes of five) points arg. Le Conte Mareschall, Y, i.e. Thomas (of Brotherton) PLANTAGENET, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk 1312, Marshall 1315, ob. 1338, fifth son of Edward I, V; Z, 205; and his daughter Margaret (PLANTAGENET) Marshal, Countess of Norfolk, Lady of Segrave, created Duchess of Norfolk,1397, ob. 1399; from her marriage with John Lord Segrave descended Elizabeth Segrave, wife of John Lord Mowbray, whose son, Thomas Mowbray, Earl of Nottingham 1382, Earl Marshal 1385, and Duke of Norfolk 1397, ob. 1400, assumed as Le C. Maryschall Sr. de Mowbray, S. quartering gu.a lion ramp. Arg. This coat, which was carried by his second and third successors, Dukes of Norfolk, until his inheritance was divided between the heirs of his daughters, who m. Howard and Berkeley.

Reference handbook for readers, students, and teachers of English history‎ - Page 29
by E. Henry Gurney - 1890

Thomas Plantagenet (Brotherton), Earl of Norfolk, Son of Edward I. Created Earl in 1309. Married, 1st Alice, daughter of Sir Roger Halys. 2Nd, Mary, daughter of William, Lord Roos. Died 1339
1.Margaret, married, 1st, Lord John Segrave; 2nd, Sir Walter de Mauney; no issue by Sir Walter. Her daughter Elizabeth married John Mowbrey, who was slain in the Holy Land 1369. Her second daughter, Anne, married John de Hastings, Earl of Pembroke.
2.Alice, married Edward de Montecute
3.Edward Plantagenet, married Beatrice, daughter of Roger Mortimer.Edward died before his father. No issue.

An annotated index of medieval women‎ - Page 310
by Anne Echols, Marty Williams -1992

Margaret Marshall, countess of Norfolk
[Margaret Brotherton; Segrave; Plantagenet]

m.1338—d.c. 1399
Daughter of Thomas Brotherton, earl of Norfolk and marshal of England (d.1338). Married John de Segrave (d. 1353) who became earl of Norfold in Margaret's right. Her second husband was Walter Mauny (Walter de Many; d. 1372). Margaret inherited vast estates, was politically active, and was noted for her donations to various religious establishements. In 1397, she was created duchess in her own right.

I found a description of the windows at the sides of the Great Hall of Hampden Court palace. See photo above

“These are thirteen in number, each consisting of eight lights; the space of what be the fourteenth window is occupied by the great south bay window. Six of them set forth the pedigrees of Henry VIII's six wives who all traced descent from Edward I, with their badges, arms, and legends.

The new guide to the royal palace of Hampton Court: With a new catalogue of ...‎ - Page 84
by Ernest Philip Alphonse Law -- 1893

The intermediate seven windows are occupied with the heraldic badges and “beasts” of Henry VIII—The Lion, the Portcullis, the Fleur-de-Lys, the Tudor Rose, the Red Dragon of the House of York, the White Greyhound of the House of Lancaster; and with the cyphers H.R., etc., and mottoes “Dieu et mon Droit,” and “Dne. Salvum Fac Reg.” ….

Third Window (South side). “Anne Bullen, 2nd wife of King Henry ye Eighth, her pedigree from King Edward ye First and his 2nd wife, Margaret of France.--King Edward ye 1st married 2nd, Margaret of France—Thomas, Earl of Norfolk, married Alice Halys—John, Lord Segrave, married Margaret de Brotherton—John, Lord Mowbray, married Elizabeth Segrave—Thomas, Duke of Norfolk, married Elizabeth Fitzalan—Syr Robert Howard married Margaret Mowbray—John, Duke of Norfolk, married Catherine Molyns—Thomas, Duke of Norfolk, married Elizabeth Tylney—Thomas, Earl of Wiltshire, married Elizabeth Howard—Anne Bullen, daughter of Thomas, Earl of Wiltshire.”

This lineage is the same as mine up to Elizabeth FitzAlan.

Annals of Chepstow Castle, or, Six centuries of the Lords of Striguil from ...‎ - Page xv
by John Fitchett Marsh - 1883

In the Inquisition taken at Chepstow 12th February 46 Edward III (1371-2), on the death of Walter de Manny, Chivaler, deceased, it was found that on the day of his death he held the castle and lordship of Strugull in the Marches of Wales, adjoining the county of Gloucester and the manor of Tudenham with the advowson of the Church of la Cante (Lancaut) as of the right and inheritance of Margaret his wife, still living, held of the King in capite by homage and fealty. And the jurors say the castle and lordship of Strugull are worth per annum in all issues L70, and the manor of Tudenham with the advowson of la Caute are worth per annum in all issues, according to the true value of the same, L50; and they say that the said Walter died 8th January last past and that Margaret his widow is the next heir and is aged forty years and more.

In another Inquisition taken 4th February, 46 Edward III, it is found that he died 15th January 45 Edward III (1371-2)
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