Saturday, October 17, 2009

John De Mowbray and Elizabeth De Segrave

John De Mowbray and Elizabeth De Segrave

John De Mowbray was born in 1328. He was the son of John De Mowbray and Joan Plantagenet.
He married about 1349 to Elizabeth De Segrave, who was sole heir of her father, John de Segrave, by his wife Margaret Plantagenet. John De Mowbray held lands in right of his wife, in Leicestershire; the manors of Segrave, Silby and Montsorrell. He held Melton and Mobray in his own right.

In Warwickshire he held the castle and manor of Caludon.

He was involved in the wars with France. He was summoned to parliament as “John de Mowbray of Axholme” 9 Oct 1368. He was killed in a fight with the Turks at Thrace near Constanople, after he took the cross and left on Crusade to the Holy Land.


Foundation For Medieval Genealogy
A manuscript record of the Mowbray family states names “Johannem” as son of “Johannes filius [Johannis]” and his wife “Johannam sororem domini Henrici primi ducis Lancastriæ”[674]. A manuscript relating to the Mowbray family records the birth in 1341 “in crastino Sci Johis Baptistæ” of “Johannes filius et hæres Dñi Johis de Moubray…[et] domina Johanna filia Dñi Henrici…Comitis Lancastriæ”[675]. He succeeded his father as 4th Lord Mowbray. A manuscript record of the Mowbray family states that “Johannes filius [Johannis]” left “ad Terram Sanctam” but was killed “a Turcis juxta Constantinopolim anno 1368”[676]. m ([1349]) ELIZABETH de Segrave, daughter of JOHN de Segrave 4th Lord Segrave & his wife Margaret Ctss of Norfolk (Croxton Abbey 25 Oct 1338-before 1368). A manuscript record of the Mowbray family states that “Johannes filius [Johannis]” married “filiam et hæredem domini de Segrave…Elizabetha”[677]. Lord John & his wife had three children:

a) ELEANOR Mowbray (1364-1417). m (1386) as his first wife, JOHN de Welles Lord Welles, son of JOHN de Welle Lord Welles & his wife Maud [de Ros] (Conisholme, Lincolnshire 20 Apr 1352-26 Aug 1421).

b) JOHN Mowbray (Epworth 3 Aug 1365-London 1380, bur London Whitefriars Church). A manuscript record of the Mowbray family names “Johannem et Thomam” as the two sons of “Johannes filius [Johannis]” and his wife “filiam et hæredem domini de Segrave…Elizabetha”, adding that John was born “apud Epworth anno 1365”, was created Earl of Nottingham by King Richard II, and died childless “apud Londinum anno 1380” and was buried “apud Albos Fratres in Londino”[678]. A manuscript relating to the Mowbray family records the birth 3 Aug 1365 “apud Eppeworth” of “Johannes filius et hæres Johis de Moubray [et] Elizabeth filia et hæres Dñi de Segrave”[679]. He may have succeeded his mother [before 1368] as Lord Segrave. He succeeded his father in 1368 as Lord Mowbray. He was created Earl of Nottingham 16 Jul 1377.

c) THOMAS Mowbray (22 Mar 1366[680]-Venice 22 Sep 1399, bur Venice, abbey of St George). A manuscript record of the Mowbray family names “Johannem et Thomam” as the two sons of “Johannes filius [Johannis]” and his wife “filiam et hæredem domini de Segrave…Elizabetha”[681]. He was created Duke of Norfolk in 1397. Earl Marshal of England.

I found an entry in an old book that says that Elizabeth Segrave inherited the manor of Romford from her parents:

The Environs of London: Counties of Herts, Essex & Kent‎ - Page 184
by Daniel Lysons - 1796

“The manor of Romford is first mentioned in a record of the year 1299, when it was held of Adam de Cretinge, by Henry de Winchester, a Jew convert. Sir Walter de Manny, who died in 1372, was seised of the manor of Romford in right of Margaret his wife, daughter and coheir of Thomas Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk, and widow of John Lord Segrave. The inheritance went to Elizabeth, daughter of Margaret's first husband, and wife of John de Mowbray; whose son, Thomas Duke of Norfolk, died seised of it, 1400.”
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